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Viewer round-up summary: week 23

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This summary is published every Monday and is a list of SL viewer / client releases (official and TPV) made during the previous week. When reading it, please note:

  • It is based on my Viewer Round-up Page, a list of  all Second Life viewers and clients that are in popular use (and of which I am aware) and which are recognised as adhering to the TPV Policy
  • By its nature, this summary will always be in arrears
  • The Viewer Round-up Page is updated as soon as I’m aware of any releases / changes to viewers & clients, and should be referred to for more up-to-date information
  • The Viewer Round-up Page also includes comprehensive links to download pages, blog notes, release notes, etc., as well as links to any / all reviews of specific viewers / clients made within this blog.  

Updates for the week ending: June 9th, 2013

  • SL Viewer updates:
      • Materials Processing beta updated to version 3.6.0.276961 on June 5th and then to  3.6.0.277049 on June 8th (release notes)
  • Niran’s Black Dragon beta updates to version 2.2.1 on June 4th – core updates: UI and skin changes
  • Cool VL updated on June 9th to:
  • Moble Grid Client updated to 1.19.1182 (minor improvements on user interface) and then to 1.20.1185 (show elevation in nearby chat and nearby people list)
  • Pocket Metaverse updated to version 1.8.1 on June 10th  – core updates: general bug fixes; improved About screen accessible from Settings screen, now displays device info (MAC address) necessary to provide Linden Support if user can’t log in

Depreciated / Discontinued Viewers

  • SL Development viewer – depreciated as of version 3.5.2.274629 April 24, 2013
  • Zen Viewer – discontinued by developer and no longer available, January 27th, 2013
  • Phoenix viewer – development and support ended on December 31st, 2012

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SL projects update week 23 (2): server, viewer, SSB/A, new LSL functions

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Server Deployments, Week 23

As usual, the latest updates, feedback and comments can be found on the deployment discussion thread. Anyone encountering a specific bug is asked to file a JIRA.

  • There was no SLS Main channel roll out this week
  • On Wednesday June 5th, the Release Candidate channel received the following packages:
    • BlueSteel and LeTigre were updated with a new server maintenance project.  This project addresses a disconnection issue and also fixes a crash mode – see my notes from week 22, and a fix for a crash mode
    • Magnum remained on the same interest list improvement project as originally deployed to LeTigre in week 21, and to Magnum and BlueSteel in week 22, with some updates. Two of these fix what Andrew Linden describes as “two rare crash modes”. The package should also include the same disconnection issue fix.

Interestingly, the “large” scripts issue I reported on in part 1 of this update was given as the reason why there was not Main channel deployment this week. As previously reported, the fix for this issue, which prevents the text of previously saved scripts from being displayed in the script editor for users on slow connections, failed to make the cut for the week 23 deployments.

There are continuing reports of “invisible avatars” on Magnum regions. This issues was first reported following the week 22 deployments, and described as “on an in-region teleport when landing all surrounding avatars de-rezz and cannot be seen until the person re-logs. Everything else appears normally.” The problem appears to be random in nature, and was also noticed at one club which enjoys a high level of attendance. and which still appears to be encountering the same issue. During the Beta Server meeting on Thursday June 6th, this issue was discussed, and appeared to be most strongly linked to v1-based viewers.

SL Viewer News

The next release of the materials beta viewer arrived on Wednesday June 5th (3.6.0.276961 with the release notes here), and as I indicated in part one of this report, sees the beta once more installed into the “correct” folder (SecondLifeBetaViewer). This means the initial beta release needs to be uninstalled separately, as the updated version obviously won’t over-write it.

The materials project beta viewer had its first update on June 5th, with the release of 3.6.0.274961

The materials project beta viewer had its first update on June 5th, with the release of 3.6.0.276961

In terms of beta releases in the future, it’s worthwhile again pointing-out that once the new viewer release process comes into effect, beta viewers will be installed into folders identified by their project name (e.g. something akin to “SecondLifeBetaMaterials”). Viewers should be fairly well self-contained (although they may still share the same default settings location, as that remains to be seen once things start rolling), so the uninstalling of individual beta versions (or RC versions) shouldn’t be a problem once they reach release status.

Work continues in preparing the new viewer release process for … release (or implementation). It’s still unclear whether it will arrive before or after materials moves to the release viewer. As reported in week 22, the current pipeline of releases we should be seeing as the new release process rolls forward includes:

  • A collection of open-source contributions to the viewer which is hoped will appear as a release candidate viewer pretty quickly
  • A “pretty substantial batch” of maintenance fixes for the viewer
  • Vivox updates, which Oz described as, “Finally getting attention again, and will probably be in a release candidate version ‘real soon’ now”
  • An Experience Tools viewer which is also expected to appear “real soon”
  • An interest list update viewer, which is believed to be getting closer to being stable

Server-side Baking / Appearance

Investigations have been continuing into the SUN-74 issue which affects non-SSB/A updated viewers (notably Phoenix), with Nyx Linden commenting at the Server Beta meeting that, “Thanks to the support from the phoenix/firestorm team, we’ve been able to identify the cause of that issue. We’re looking into what options are available to us. [It]  took some backflips to get it in a debugging environment, but managed to hunt it down – a combination of factors from not having the last 4 years of appearance fixes :) “

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Viewer round-up summary: week 22

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This summary is published every Monday and is a list of SL viewer / client releases (official and TPV) made during the previous week. When reading it, please note:

  • It is based on my Viewer Round-up Page, a list of  all Second Life viewers and clients that are in popular use (and of which I am aware) and which are recognised as adhering to the TPV Policy
  • By its nature, this summary will always be in arrears
  • The Viewer Round-up Page is updated as soon as I’m aware of any releases / changes to viewers & clients, and should be referred to for more up-to-date information
  • The Viewer Round-up Page also includes comprehensive links to download pages, blog notes, release notes, etc., as well as links to any / all reviews of specific viewers / clients made within this blog.  

Updates for the week ending: June 2nd, 2013

Depreciated / Discontinued Viewers

  • SL Development viewer – depreciated as of version 3.5.2.274629 April 24, 2013
  • Zen Viewer – discontinued by developer and no longer available, January 27th, 2013
  • Phoenix viewer – development and support ended on December 31st, 2012

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SL projects Update 22 (3) SSB/A issue update, upcoming viewer releases

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Server-side Baking / Appearance

Yesterday, I reported on the SUN-74 issue (Apparent avatar skin and eye texture asset corruption with Server Side Appearance), which can impact users with avatars wearing modifiable skin and/or eyes and/or hairbase who enter (via teleport or crossing a region boundary) an SSB/A-enabled region while using a non-SSB/A enabled viewer (e.g. such as Phoenix or the v1.23.5 viewer) and leave them with a corrupted copy of the worn skin / hairbase or eyes. At the time I noted that the matter was under investigation by Linden Lab, and no decision had been made on how to handle it.

Whirly Fizzle demonstrates the result of the SUN-74 issue

Whirly Fizzle demonstrates one aspect of the SUN-74 issue – on a non-SSB/A viewer, her MOD skin has turned black / invisible and her MOD eyes have turned white as a result of entering an SSB/A-enabled region and responding with YES to the given prompt.

Speaking at the TPV Developer meeting on Friday May 31st, Oz Linden provided an update on the issue and spoke more generally on the issue of the use of olfder (non-SSB/A capable viewers) going forward:

We don’t actually know what’s ultimately going to be done about that; that’s a subject of vigorous discussion that’s going on even as we speak, so we’ll see how that plays out. I think it’s fair to say that regardless of what happens with that particular issue … I will just make the observation that there are still people really, really old viewers [and] there is no way, no way at all, that we could even begin to test for compatibility back with all of those viewers.

As it is, as recently as this last week there were 1,665 different viewer version strings reported as connecting to the main grid (these include 151 versions of Singularity, 50 versions of Phoenix, 262 labelled as Firestorm, and so on). Some of these may be “one offs” self-compiled builds (which may or may not have the most recent updates to support something like SSB/A), but even so, given the overall number of viewer strings, it is understandable why the Lab view attempt to ensure so many different viewer versions were fully compatible with anything on the grid is a next to impossible task.

This does not mean that the Lab is going to ignore SUN-74, right now they are still investigating the problem and trying to reproduce it in a consistent manner (which is apparently proving difficult for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that some older viewers simply crash when attempting to repro the corruption). However, what it does underline is the need for people to upgrade to an SSB/A-enabled version of their preferred viewer sooner rather than later.

The reason for this is that very soon the Lab will start undertaking more widespread testing of the new service by enabling it across a number of regions across the grid. These regions may not necessarily be constrained to any of the usual RC channels, but could well be a mix of regions from all of the various simulator channels, making them harder to identify and avoid. This testing will be to gain greater insight into how the service stands up under “real avatar loads” – something which is impossible to carry out to any great depth on Aditi, as there simply isn’t the volume of users active there.

Once this more widespread testing starts, then it is entirely possible that users who remain on non-SSB/A capable viewers are going to encounter issues and problems beyond seeing grey avatars which the Lab are not going to address, simply because the issues can be resolved by a viewer update.

So the word really is, update, update, update.

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